Microfunding Wind Turbine Questions

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Microfunding Wind Turbine Questions

Beitrag von nikolayhg » Di 18. Dez 2012, 23:58

Hi Alex,

1) I would combine the current Wind Turbine Campaign with the Microfunding in one page. A person can choose to donate monthly or once. On the right side will be all people and organizations who are donating regularly or once (name, photo, why they donated). What do you think?

2) Which bank account to choose for the montly donations - yours or Planraum's? If everything goes to Planraum, you can receive money for your work with a contract (as far as I know) - does this contract requires the money to be taxed, if so how much? The point is - which bank transfer process is as lean as possible.

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Re: Microfunding Wind Turbine Questions

Beitrag von shure » Mi 19. Dez 2012, 01:41

nikolayhg hat geschrieben:Hi Alex,
1) I would combine the current Wind Turbine Campaign with the Microfunding in one page. A person can choose to donate monthly or once. On the right side will be all people and organizations who are donating regularly or once (name, photo, why they donated). What do you think?
Okay! I would not include the people on the right because of privacy reasons. If anything, that should be optional. Let's make it like OSE? But call it Open Source Supporter, not "TrueFans".
nikolayhg hat geschrieben: 2) Which bank account to choose for the montly donations - yours or Planraum's?
I suggest to use a PayPal account and then connect my bank account. It's more transparent and not totally depends on my. Plus, more easy to use. For bank transfer donations I suggest to use Planraum's. If a receipt is needed, Planraum's PayPal/bank account is needed!
I would prefer to have an own Verein and bank account with OSEG, but that's another topic.
nikolayhg hat geschrieben: If everything goes to Planraum, you can receive money for your work with a contract (as far as I know) - does this contract requires the money to be taxed, if so how much? The point is - which bank transfer process is as lean as possible.
That's difficult if we talk about a decent amount of money. About a third of the income I get legally and with a contract will be taxed. (I should marry someone and save money :P )
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Re: Microfunding Wind Turbine Questions

Beitrag von nikolayhg » Mi 19. Dez 2012, 01:53

shure hat geschrieben:
nikolayhg hat geschrieben:Hi Alex,
1) I would combine the current Wind Turbine Campaign with the Microfunding in one page. A person can choose to donate monthly or once. On the right side will be all people and organizations who are donating regularly or once (name, photo, why they donated). What do you think?
Okay! I would not include the people on the right because of privacy reasons. If anything, that should be optional. Let's make it like OSE? But call it Open Source Supporter, not "TrueFans".
The people and organizations who want to be on the right side, will be able to decide so, we don't decide it. Open Source Supporters sounds good.
nikolayhg hat geschrieben: 2) Which bank account to choose for the montly donations - yours or Planraum's?
I suggest to use a PayPal account and then connect my bank account. It's more transparent and not totally depends on my. Plus, more easy to use. For bank transfer donations I suggest to use Planraum's. If a receipt is needed, Planraum's PayPal/bank account is needed!
I would prefer to have an own Verein and bank account with OSEG, but that's another topic.
Okay. Please send me per email your bank account.
nikolayhg hat geschrieben: If everything goes to Planraum, you can receive money for your work with a contract (as far as I know) - does this contract requires the money to be taxed, if so how much? The point is - which bank transfer process is as lean as possible.
That's difficult if we talk about a decent amount of money. About a third of the income I get legally and with a contract will be taxed.
Doesn't sound as a good option.

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Re: Microfunding Wind Turbine Questions

Beitrag von nikolayhg » Mi 19. Dez 2012, 20:43

Hi Alex,

1) PayPal account (Privatkunden) ist connect to only 1 person. We are not able to change the name after the account is created. If we want to add a new bank account, the family name of this person cannot be changed! This means that the account really "belongs" to 1 person. Similar is for non-profit organization. The problem is documented here: http://wiki.opensourceecology.de/wiki/P ... Conditions
So what is fixed: If you want to get the money direclty, it should be Your PayPal account.
Suggestions:
1.a) we either use your existing PayPal account (if there is) - you have to take care of the transparency of the incoming donations.
1.b) we create a second PayPal account for you to which for example I have access too - I take care of the transparency of the incoming donations.

2) I need an existing PayPal account, maybe yours, to test the PayPal subscription. There was no official way to create subscription button, but there is an old HTML code which may work: http://wiki.opensourceecology.de/wiki/P ... #HTML_Code

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Re: Microfunding Wind Turbine Questions

Beitrag von shure » Do 20. Dez 2012, 06:16

I will make a PayPal account for oseg with my credentials. Will export the transactions then on a regular basis and post them to oseg.
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Re: Microfunding Wind Turbine Questions

Beitrag von nikolayhg » Do 20. Dez 2012, 13:27

okay, when the account is ready publish it here, so I can test the subscription button.

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Re: Microfunding Wind Turbine Questions

Beitrag von nikolayhg » Do 20. Dez 2012, 21:07

The answer of PayPal for the subscription in Germany is negative:
Guten Tag, Nikolay Georgiev!

Dankeschön für Ihr Interesse an Abonnement-Diensten, die Sie über PayPal realisieren möchten. Eine entsprechende Funktion können wir jedoch derzeit nicht für den deutschen Markt bereitstellen.

Natürlich sind wir immer daran interessiert PayPal noch attraktiver zu gestalten und arbeiten daran, Ihnen in Zukunft eine Lösung anbieten zu können. Bitte haben Sie jedoch dafür Verständnis, das wir Ihnen im Moment noch keine konkreten Angaben mitteilen können.

Ich hoffe, dass ich Ihnen informativ behilflich sein konnte und bedanke mich für Ihr Verständnis. Auch weiterhin viel Einkaufsspaß mit PayPal und ein erholsames Fest!

Falls Sie noch Fragen haben, helfen wir Ihnen jederzeit gerne weiter.

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But I would say we can test it :)

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Re: Microfunding Wind Turbine Questions

Beitrag von shure » Fr 21. Dez 2012, 01:16

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Re: Microfunding Wind Turbine Questions

Beitrag von nikolayhg » Fr 21. Dez 2012, 02:09

Unfortunaltey it is not working with the "Test Subscription Button". I receive the error:
Der Link, über den Sie das PayPal-System aufgerufen haben, ist ungültig. Überprüfen Sie den Link, und wiederholen Sie den Vorgang.
They may track the cmd parameter. Maybe the problem is with the German accounts.

What other options do we have for monthly subscriptions?

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Re: Microfunding Wind Turbine Questions

Beitrag von nikolayhg » Fr 21. Dez 2012, 21:57

ah, I just found a German website which is using PayPal, took their code and replaced their account with ours:
http://wiki.opensourceecology.de/wiki/P ... bscription
but after the PayPal Login I receive the same error as in the previous post.
Google suggests that the owner of the PayPal account is from London, so this may explain why it is working.

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